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The Spaghetti Monster

In any debate between a theist and an atheist you can find this monster. Atheists demand proof for the existence of God. But they never welcome a demand for proof of non-existence of God. Immediately throw up this argument and hide behind this argument. Hide is what they do.

This is how they do it. They immediately ask “Prove to me that a ‘Flying Spaghetti  Monster’ or a ‘Pink Unicorn’ does not exist.” Then they say “You can’t prove the non-existence of something”.

The Refutation

  1. Let us take a close look at this argument. This argument two parts – an object in argument and  a statement.  So in this argument:
    Object: Flying Spaghetti Monster
    Statement: Its non-existence cannot be proven.
    I put it down in this way to make it clear to all. So the statement being true is dependent on the object. When you place object as “Flying Spaghetti Monster” then the argument is true. But will it still remain true if the object is changed? This is what they conveniently ignore or are not aware of. They claim that this argument is true even if you change the object. Well that is not so. What happens if the object is replaced with say “Obamma”.  Well since “Obamma” is not a  non-existent object, the argument falls apart. Therefore this argument cannot be used as an absolute argument
  2. Another way to look at this is as follows. It is a fact that a spaghetti monster does not exist. Therefore it’s non-existence cannot be proved. But is God non-existent? If God was non-existent then the statement would be true. But since God’s existence is question this argument cannot be used and is invalid.


This is an old argument. It has been refuted by many people. But still they do not want to accept what has been logically explained. Because if they were to let go of it then they would have to think for themselves and bring out new arguments.

Are atheists and skeptics capable of this? Are they honest? Do they have the courage and sincerity to throw away old and stale arguments and present valid logical arguments by themselves?


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Why does God throw some to Hell?

Many a times skeptics’ debate or analysis’  are unfair. This is so because most of the time, all they want is mock their opponent or make them look silly. This only shows their level of morality.

One form of unfairness or dishonesty is to to ask invalid questions and press for a reply.  Most obviously invalid questions do not have valid answers. And so asking invalid questions and silencing the opponent is unfair and dishonest.

An invalid question comes out of invalid premise. You just pick a statement and assume that the Christians believe it and claim it to be true and then you question it. This question is a typical example for this. Let me explain.

The question is Why does throw some people to hell?

  1. The premise is God throws people into hell.
  2. You then assume that Christians believe this is true.
  3. Then you question this with a “Why?”

Here the premise itself is wrong. God does not throw people into hell. It would be like saying that a teacher failed a student. It is not the teacher who fails the students. A teacher can only award marks how the student has answered his questions. If student has only answered questions worth 10 marks the teacher is left with no choice but to award 10 marks only. Therefore God does not condemn anyone to hell but each person is solely responsible for that.

Since the premise is wrong the question is invalid.

If you want to debate of analyze religious stud have the courage to do that honestly. Have the courage to ask valid questions rather than hiding behind invalid questions.

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